Part 8 Claim: Can It Be Heard On The Papers/Without Claimant's presence?

How you all doing? Well, I hope.

A Part 8 Claim is being contemplated, but the potential Claimant may not be able to attend court due to ill health. As such a claim should be decided on indisputable facts, would the court still expect the Claimant's attendance? The Defendant will likely ask for a Strike Out, and the judge might order a Directions Hearing, so attendance at one or two hearings may be required anyway.

The claim is pretty watertight, it's just that the defendant will be all-out to win it by hook or by crook, and won't back down at any stage.

I do know that the court has a lot of discretion - is it worth asking for a papers hearing to start with? Or make the Claim and hope for the best? A loss would result in costs against the Claimant, but those costs would probably not be pursued.

The Letter before Action is being sent shortly, and a decision will have to be made about where to go next - my advice would be to make the Claim and play it by ear - perhaps going in with all intentions might be best, and then if the Claimant really can't attend any hearings, then nothing ventured etc.

The choice is not mine to make - I just need to state what the options are.

Grateful for any advice on this please.

Hi - tough times in the legal

Hi - tough times in the legal profession - no doubt about that.

I may not be able to get back to you on this for 48 hours.

Hope that is OK.

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Cheers, Ian, that'd be great.

Cheers, Ian, that'd be great.

Profile: "The language used on your claim form is often the only one they will understand"

If the defendant acknowleges

If the defendant acknowleges service and files evidence in reply then almost certainly the court will give directions as to the disposal of the claim.

This may involve a hearing date at which the claim is heard or further case management directions given.

Personally I would always attend any hearings.

I agree that a judge has wide powers but non -attendance by a claimant always gives the judge the excuse simply to strike out.

I would not risk it but as you say this might be a case which is so obvious that a letter to the court seeking to be excused on the grounds of ill-health might just do the trick. You would need to produce a medical report.

You will have to play it by ear and see how matters develop.

You can seek further advice here.

 

Profile: I joined Sarginsons from university as an articled clerk in 1970. I am now the managing partner and have wide experience in all aspects of the law normally dealt with in private practice. I believe that a modern high street practice must adapt to the hefty demands of clients and deliver it's services according to the clients wishes.

The part 8 procedure is

The part 8 procedure is appropriate for undisputed claims and is more often used to ratify an agreement reached before proceedings are commenced so as to bind the parties to its terms. It short circuits the usual process because there is no arguement. This is distinct from a watertight claim ,which might be defended ,where procedings should be issued in the usual way.

Richard Paremain

Profile: Personal injury specialist solicitor with Sarginsons Law LLP. I have more than 20 years experience involving both minor injury and cases with injury of the utmost severity. This has ranged from the Zeebrugge Ferry Disaster to a pavement trip for a Mrs Gready.I have a special interest in compensation for the Victims of Crime through the Criminal Injuries scheme. 02476521081 rparemain@s-law.co.uk

Hi Richard. Thanks for your

Hi Richard.

 

Thanks for your comments. I'd just like to say that I first came across the Part 8 procedure when looking into housing law, and found that a judge could be asked under this part to make a decision on homelessness when a Local authority refused to do so.

 

Then I thought that a Part 8 claim would be an appropriate method to gain satisfaction under similar circumstances to the one above, and it worked. I think the judge was very fair about the whole thing - to both parties - and was convinced that there was actually no legal or factual argument in favour of the Defendant's position. The Defendant, of course, did state reasons why the claim couldn't be heard by way of Part 8, but the arguments for were obviously pretty compelling.

 

As in that instance, the argument in the intended claim would be the same - that a Government Minister made (by proxy) a decision which wasn't consistent with what the law requires: as was said in answer to the previous (and same) Defendant's objection to proceeding under Part 8, there is no argument about the facts, which lie in the actions of the Defendant and what the law says about those actions. The actions of the Claimant would have no relevance.

 

I wish I had the legal training that some on this forum have had, and then I'd know what I was doing, but I like to have a go if I can, and sometimes have to because nobody else is able or willing to. I must say that I am very grateful to the members of this, and other law forums, for their valuable advice and assistance

 

I've found that the Civil Court system is reasonably fair, and so am always ready to recommend a threat of court action followed by a claim. I like the guaranteed outcome, which you don't always get if you pursue a complaint via the so-called 'watchdogs'.

 

I don't know why I favour the Part 8 procedure so much, but I think it's the simplicity which it brings to a claim and the fact that in threatening it it might appear that you know what you're doing, and would be a force to be reckoned with - you get kudos simply for putting in the words, as you would for any Letter Before Action which identifies the law involved.

 

Cheers.

 

Profile: "The language used on your claim form is often the only one they will understand"

It sounds as though you have

It sounds as though you have a pretty reasonable grasp of things....best of luck...please let us know the outcome.

A reasonably amicable solution is always the best even if sometimes it involves some compromise. But negotiating from a position of apparent strength has a lot to be said for it.

Richard Paremain

Profile: Personal injury specialist solicitor with Sarginsons Law LLP. I have more than 20 years experience involving both minor injury and cases with injury of the utmost severity. This has ranged from the Zeebrugge Ferry Disaster to a pavement trip for a Mrs Gready.I have a special interest in compensation for the Victims of Crime through the Criminal Injuries scheme. 02476521081 rparemain@s-law.co.uk

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